cutting side windows into a pannel van

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cutting side windows into a pannel van

Postby ed82 » 31 Mar 2010, 20:51

Hi Folks,

New to this forum, just perchased my first T25 been in the vw scene for many years now owning mainly mk2 golf gti's.
Just Got myself a T25 Watercooled panel van and im looking at the best ways to fit some side windows. I've done some thinking and I really want glass as apposed to the perspex side windows.
Are templates available?
are the caravelle windows and seals a straight forward option as they are widly availabe on the bay?
Any advice would be appricated.

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Re: cutting side windows into a pannel van

Postby billy739 » 01 Apr 2010, 07:30

caravelle/minibus windows will not fit unless you fit the window section panels(welding/filler/ respray)

panel van conversion windows come in many sizes depends who made them .
if you buy a used set of conversion windows you will find the rubber seals have hardened , whilst they can be reused they wont seal like they should , causing leaking and rust, so ideally budget on new seals as well, these are available from most window companies.


so get the windows before you cut the hole!

top job would be to fit the proper panels and fit recessed caravelle tinted windows, but wont be cheap

if you get stuck rattybird on hear may be able to help with some 'dont do's' lol
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Re: cutting side windows into a pannel van

Postby ed82 » 01 Apr 2010, 09:57

So am I right in thinking I can get WHOLE CARAVELLE glass set buy the different seals for the van conversion cut a hole the size of the glass + seal and pop in the windows? or do I need different glass?
Any one done it or has pics?
I like the stock look of the caravelle glass but I am thinking I might just fit glass in the sliding door and opp. So would it be easyer just to buy a sliding door with a window in it? oening ones seem to look a bit odd. I was thinking of a roof vent to get round this.
My van needs a spray job any way and my intention is to fit out the interior and glass then remove it bebore I paint it.
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Re: cutting side windows into a pannel van

Postby billy739 » 01 Apr 2010, 10:13

to fit proper caravelle windows you will need to weld these parts in,

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... :MESELX:IT

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... :MESELX:IT
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... :MESELX:IT

other wise its non standard glass, and that comes in lots of different sizes , some flat , some curved!
as for the door easiest , not always cheapest is caravelle/ factory window sliding door , good ones are £150 ish

seems alot of work , but the finished result is always lots better!

sliding or fixed windows is then up to you ,all standard sizes clear or green tint from factory
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Re: cutting side windows into a pannel van

Postby ed82 » 01 Apr 2010, 12:31

Any one got pics of non standard windows fitted to there panel vans?
has any one fitted after market windows whats the best ones out there?

I had a mad moment and was thinking of cutting small squaire windows in the door as the inside frame sort of suggests this and one in the side panel to make three small windows down each side, then just get some glass cut some new seals and I have something a bit different.
I like two tone painted vans and thought this small window mod would look good with the window sections in cream with the rest of the van in light blue if you get my drift.
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Re: cutting side windows into a pannel van

Postby billy739 » 01 Apr 2010, 20:22

look at any pictures of an autohomes/ autosleeper camper , they are all panel conversions!

all westys/some devons are minibus/caravelle based
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Re: cutting side windows into a pannel van

Postby elsid » 02 Apr 2010, 18:24

There is an article on fitting windows to T4/T5's in issue three 2010 0f Volks World Camper & Bus. It shows you how to cut the holes etc but doesn't say anything about the glass. In "Cost of Job" it says POA Just Kampers so I presume the glass comes from them, I don't know if they do it for T25's.
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Re: cutting side windows into a pannel van

Postby t25adict » 09 Apr 2010, 18:59

if your going to put windows in its well worth the extra work of fitting caravell windows.

there are quite a few people that break these vans that would be happy to cut out the rebated window frames.
WHY T3's.... because they are just so adictive, and having one just aint enough
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Re: cutting side windows into a pannel van

Postby rattybird » 11 Apr 2010, 10:55

Dont do it unless you realy want to do it its so much F'n Hassle :ok
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Re: cutting side windows into a pannel van

Postby billy739 » 11 Apr 2010, 13:18

its an easy job , just research it and do it right , find out which kit you need and what windows you want

obviousy caravelle window sections are easiiset as you dont mess with the window opening!


cut corners and it will turn out rough
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Re: cutting side windows into a pannel van

Postby jonnyels » 11 Apr 2010, 18:36

you should try http://www.leisurevehiclewindows.co.uk/.
We brought a slider for behind the driver and a solid window for the sliding door.I cant remember how much we payed now but it was well worth it probaly the best thing we have done to our van.
The guys there are very good aswell they know what there talking about and if you want to do it your self they can supply a fitting kit or like us they can recomend some one in your area that use there windows and fit them.
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Re: cutting side windows into a pannel van

Postby jimpainter » 03 May 2010, 09:46

I fitted my own window in. Quite easy when you stop and think about it. Cant beleive som of the prices of the panels fo fitting factory windows. I paid a tenner for my panel complete with the glass and seal.
This is the panel i fitted meself.
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Would do it again as well. Really easy to do just check everything before doing it.
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Re: cutting side windows into a pannel van

Postby wiggy » 11 May 2010, 18:39

when fitting pannel van converstion window do you cut hole 5mm bigger than window to allow fitting rubber seal confused :run
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Re: cutting side windows into a pannel van

Postby jiffies » 13 May 2010, 21:09

I've got an authomes conversion which from reading the postings was once a panel van. The van had all the window holes cut out but the glass was not fitted in the side ones. Some seals were present but not all. This is where the problem arises. I have no idea what type of seals I need & how many per window. I think I need a minimum of two seals per window. Maybe 3. If anyone has any info on the type of seals I need & where to get them from that would be great.
Claytonrite Rubber was one of the seals i heard I need.
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