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4 speed to 5 speed help

Postby cranch21 » 26 Feb 2009, 18:52

hi there 4 speed just broke on my 2ltr a/c and i bought a 5 speed, mounted up the box ok but trying the front mount and the box seems too long to fit. Any help please???
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Re: 4 speed to 5 speed help

Postby Fritz » 26 Feb 2009, 19:01

You are correct the 4 to 5 speed change over is not a straight forward as you think, as well as the box mounting being different you will also find the gear linkage will also need replacing ./


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Re: 4 speed to 5 speed help

Postby cranch21 » 26 Feb 2009, 19:04

yer i have the linkage but i cant seem to get the box past the crossmember to bolt it up
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Re: 4 speed to 5 speed help

Postby R0B » 26 Feb 2009, 19:09

cranch are you the same cranch who had the multi coloured van.who camped with us at vanfest a few years ago..
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Re: 4 speed to 5 speed help

Postby cranch21 » 26 Feb 2009, 19:12

thats me, currently all oily scratching round trying to fit this box, any ideas?
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Re: 4 speed to 5 speed help

Postby Mocki » 26 Feb 2009, 19:18

if i remember correctly, and i might not be, are the bell housings longer on a watercooled box than a Aircooled??

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Re: 4 speed to 5 speed help

Postby cranch21 » 26 Feb 2009, 19:21

yer that could make sense, i was told my a reputable vw man it would work but i'm struggling . cheers
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Re: 4 speed to 5 speed help

Postby cranch21 » 26 Feb 2009, 19:30

just measured it up, bell housing is the same, rear is longer, any ideas?
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Re: 4 speed to 5 speed help

Postby Mocki » 26 Feb 2009, 19:38

told ya i might not be remembering rightly.....
i have been party to mounting a Aircooled (DK) box in a water cooled, but not the other way round......

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Re: 4 speed to 5 speed help

Postby billy739 » 26 Feb 2009, 19:43

different fromt mounts

the Aircooled mounts different to the water cooled.
4 speed is longer than the 5 speed water cooled ones.

i would not like to say weather the engine sits further forward either.
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Re: 4 speed to 5 speed help

Postby cranch21 » 26 Feb 2009, 19:48

the 5 speed is code ABN and is def longer, the only way i can see is moving the engine toward the rear about an inch
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Re: 4 speed to 5 speed help

Postby cranch21 » 26 Feb 2009, 20:27

just tried it, engine is too far back, get a 4 speed??? surely there must be a way to do it
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Re: 4 speed to 5 speed help

Postby cranch21 » 27 Feb 2009, 08:10

???
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Re: 4 speed to 5 speed help

Postby billy739 » 27 Feb 2009, 09:01

if it was me and defo in a different place, bolt up the gearbox mount first , jack up the engine then redeill the chassis to except the engine bar in a different place!
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Re: 4 speed to 5 speed help

Postby smurf » 27 Feb 2009, 13:53

Have you got the 5 speed front mount attatched to the box or have you swapped the 4 speed onto it? The 5 speed front mount is shorter to allow for the box being longer.
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