16" Trailing arm Spring End plate

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16" Trailing arm Spring End plate

Postby torchy » 19 Nov 2013, 16:50

Some one said "is you rear wheel supposed to look like that?"........ehm no.....

As can be seen the trailing arm has rotten away.

Seikel.de have a cast iron spare for a second mortgage which I'll have to get, unfortunatly though they don't supply the bottom end plate the pig tail sits in... and mine is knackerred, as can be seen in the second picture....can any one help/suggest where I can get one?

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Re: 16" Trailing arm Spring End plate

Postby syncropatrick » 19 Nov 2013, 16:53

Talk to Dai for a replacement of complete arm using obtainable parts, at less cost than Seikel.
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Re: 16" Trailing arm Spring End plate

Postby Simon Baxter » 19 Nov 2013, 16:54

Currently on the shelf, spoken for however for a job coming up in a week or 2.
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Re: 16" Trailing arm Spring End plate

Postby lloydy » 19 Nov 2013, 17:06

i have two of these not fitted to my van at the moment.. Hotpod has them and is making copies. I Dont want to sell mine, as its not a easy part to find. But hotpod may have a repro he could sell?..... At the moment i have a T4 rubber spring perch on there, Does the job, but does deform a bit. Simon has the T4 rubber perch's
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Re: 16" Trailing arm Spring End plate

Postby Aidan » 19 Nov 2013, 21:26

and there's a pair of new ones at Ian's he was going to ask foundary for a price to cast them
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Re: 16" Trailing arm Spring End plate

Postby jes*b » 19 Nov 2013, 21:53

Still wanting these for the panel van if they become available , mine are a bit eaten . NOS would be sweet :)
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Re: 16" Trailing arm Spring End plate

Postby toomanytoys » 19 Nov 2013, 23:11

Ok.. anyone got a single/ pair I can borrow for a quote on a cost effective replacement fabrication???
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Re: 16" Trailing arm Spring End plate

Postby silverbullet » 20 Nov 2013, 12:32

I've just had a firm kick up the a*** from Aidan about these. I'll get the NOS diesel ones 251 511 139B I have here back to the foundry on Friday for an up-to-date cost and lead time. Shouldn't require patterns to be made and shrinkage should be minimal (1:75 for aluminium alloys i.e. for every 75mm in any plane, you'll lose 1mm once cold) so they will fit OK without too much swearing.

I'm guessing 20 pairs as a minimum quantity.

Can't see why the 16" ones shouldn't be the same cost, if we can blast and Devcon a pair they will do as masters if there's not an original pair to hand.
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Re: 16" Trailing arm Spring End plate

Postby hotpod » 20 Nov 2013, 13:55

oops,
i got these done ages ago at a good foundry 10 miles from me. they were £20 each i think but they would be £15 each if i ordered in bulk ( like 10 pairs)
i had been meaning to fill the copies and put the locating stud onto the one which was missing it and then recast the smooth versions.
just haven't got round to it yet.
i put a pair on the camper already and there are no issues with fitting with the shrinkage.

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Lloydy's on the left, copies on the right.
the wear that has been copied from Lloydys ones is presumably the result of broken pigtails at some point? that was what i was going to fill so that further copues looked like they should.
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Re: 16" Trailing arm Spring End plate

Postby hotpod » 20 Nov 2013, 14:04

and before anyone asks about the taper and thickness

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Re: 16" Trailing arm Spring End plate

Postby axeman » 20 Nov 2013, 16:26

are these a 16" specific item that acts like the deisle spacer in reverse? just wondering whats the point of them?

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Re: 16" Trailing arm Spring End plate

Postby hotpod » 20 Nov 2013, 16:34

neither of my petrol 16s had them, i think they are just to compensate for the extra weight of the diesel engines.
i have no idea if they are any different to standard ones. i thought that they were just generally hard to come by.
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Re: 16" Trailing arm Spring End plate

Postby axeman » 20 Nov 2013, 16:39

ok may be a diesle 16" thing as the camper (14") diesle has "diesle spacers on the rear but i cant remember if the are cast ones or some kind of plastic/nylon construction. i am also quite sure that they are located at the top of the spring.

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Re: 16" Trailing arm Spring End plate

Postby jed the spread » 20 Nov 2013, 16:48

14" diesel syncros should have them too at the bottom of the spring or top of trailing arm really.

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Re: 16" Trailing arm Spring End plate

Postby torchy » 20 Nov 2013, 16:49

Got this from VW dealers in Bristol, I'm guessing it's ETKA but mine doesnt work anymore.

Seems strange there is a special one for diesel?, but Diesel or Petrol I think better than nothing,

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